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Quote from Esclatasangs: “Hello everybody,5 years have passed since my last tournament, some babies have kept me away from gaming tables. Finally, last weekend, my mummies have stepped on the sand again (or I could say better they bitten it)From what I have been able to verify, the book has changed a lot (bye, bye to my NG deathstar ).When I left the game we have a very solid magic phase, one of the best infantry blocks in the game and a synergy between different units, that drives you to victor…

Cv +1 for raising and Hierophant doesnt get any CV to raise. Shabti weapon upgrades are too expensive, shabtis in general are a bit too expensive compared too Cataphracts. I'd probably remove hourGlass or change the item if CV on raising drops

pre Cv 2 nerf it was the hour glass with the combination of healing that was broken. They should of honstly just removed the hourGlass. I've been making it a mission too find a competitive list that I like /does well. I finally landed on one after playing and winning several games and against etc lists/players. But the books biggest weakness imo is unit footprints. Cataphracts for example have awesome statlines but anything bigger then a unit of 3 it becomes very hard too play. Not including the…

I think as mentioned above biggest 2 issues with the book being played at a competitive level is the cv+2 nerf which kinda ruined the books balance since raising is super hard now for ud. And also because the new labs have alot of good counters too our book. Sphinxs are almost never seen anymore. The book isnt in a bad spot i think with alittle tweks like dropping the raising too cv+1 and some point adjustments will go a long way to " Raising " our power level, and bringing it back too the table

I think Se internal balance is in a good place. I think thicket beasts suffer from the fact that having thicket shepherd in them is almost a must, which starts too dicate ur list builds. Also I find it funny when people say oh i take 3 unit of rangers cuz there underpriced, if thicket beasts were cheaper id take 3 units of them. I personally don't like that mentality like why spam units, it's not in the spirt of he gane imo. Like having a balanced army with cool theme is just as important the us…

how about giving Skeleton cav the bat swarm rule. Anyone in contact with them gets -1 to hit. Then they would have some more staying power.... and be decent in combo charges

I don't understand why the + 2 casting value was put in. I mean sure ud were pretty strong but why +2. 9th age seem pretty conservative with making changes. Should of started with +1 cv then go for there. moCt was kinda broken, didn't matter how much points went up, ppl were Still taking it. Not until them dropping a spell have ppl stop taking it .aka a rule change Steam tank is taken in like 95% of eos list even thou its been going up in points consistently. Time for a rule change imo Ud needs …

I could be wrong but the etc ud lists dont look too scary The players might do decent with them.they seem.conventional so they my suprise some ppl. Hopefully ud receives some love in future updates

Not alot of blade dancers. Seems huntsmen and rangers are just better in most instances which I agree.

Quote from wombat: “Quote from Ir3k: “(Hidden Content) ” TBH, not a fan of your Character Set Up. If going Master ( Soul Conduit ) , Adept, Casket I would be looking at Evocation Master, Cosmo Adept, Casket and Crown of the Wizard King on another Character. With Channel 3 and Evo Master ( successfully casting 1 spell per turn ) you should take 8 v 5 for 1st turn and ( with reasonable luck ) 9 v 5 for the rest of game. Don't feel you need Channel 4, Essence of a Free Mind nor a Crystal ball. If y…

Quote from Izomov: “Quote from Ir3k: “-snip- ” I would definitely drop the catapult, without access to My Will be Done a single one is going to be very underwhelming.Get a Relentless Company banner on the skeletons to give them a shot at running away if things get hairy. Its going to be very tempting for your opponents to gun for it, as its 1310 VPs that are very easy to kill. I would also drop the Essence and go for evocation. Get a Void Talisman on him instead for channel 4 for very powerful m…

Quote from umbranar: “Quote from Ir3k: “Undying Dynasties 445 - Death Cult Hierarch, General, Wizard Master, Cosmology, Crystal Ball, Soul Conduit 300 - Death Cult Hierarch, Wizard Adept, Divination, Evocation, Sceptre of Power, Essence of a Free Mind, Hierophant 205 - Casket of Phatep 200 - Tomb Architect, Light Armour 663 - 6 Skeleton Chariots, Legion Charioteers, Standard Bearer (Banner of Speed), Musician, Champion 165 - 20 Skeletons, Musician, Champion 154 - 6 Skeleton Scouts 145 - 5 Skelet…

Undying Dynasties 445 - Death Cult Hierarch, General, Wizard Master, Cosmology, Crystal Ball, Soul Conduit 300 - Death Cult Hierarch, Wizard Adept, Divination, Evocation, Sceptre of Power, Essence of a Free Mind, Hierophant 205 - Casket of Phatep 200 - Tomb Architect, Light Armour 663 - 6 Skeleton Chariots, Legion Charioteers, Standard Bearer (Banner of Speed), Musician, Champion 165 - 20 Skeletons, Musician, Champion 154 - 6 Skeleton Scouts 145 - 5 Skeleton Scouts 355 - 3 Tomb Cataphracts, Unde…

very nice!!!

So didnt have time too do the battle reports on the other games , but the list went 3-2 so not too bad. I am trying something a bit different this time Undying Dynasties 490 - Pharaoh, Skeletal Horse, Light Armour (Destiny's Call), Great Aspen Bow, Great Weapon (Godslayer), Sekhem Sceptre, Dragonfire Gem 470 - Pharaoh, General, Skeletal Horse, Heavy Armour (Jackal's Blessing), Great Aspen Bow, Paired Weapons (Touch of Greatness), Death Mask of Teput 300 - Death Cult Hierarch, Wizard Adept, Divin…

Quote from N3okorrales: “Quote from Wesser: “Quote from Flavus: “Can we just vote for current SE book and leave all unchanged until new SE book release? ” bowstrels for a bit longer ” i have 3 armies (se included obviously) and i honestly cant think of a more useless unit than kestrels with bows. those arrows are meaningless, worse AS, less CC power due to bigger front. ” i think bow kestrels would be cool if they were pathfinders on kestrals then it would be worth it too get some elite shooting…

well ofc you have too consider your own meta in mind. Im taking into account all the ub single and ub team tournaments ive done. Where ive had the most success playing treeless lists. For me personally this balance patch really doesnt do much. Even saying like oh treefathers went up 20 points, well if u take 2 thats 40 points, which i one less sentinel....so nothing really changes. All in all we cant complain, i would just like too see a more aggressive approach in changes. I play UD as well and…

Quote from Xso: “The only significative buff is the price of archers, and I don't even play them. The rest doesn't mean a lot. 5 points that you win here and there that will be spent on paying the TF price nerf (I can't imagine a list competitive without 3 of them anyhow). In core maybe we can bring an unit of archers, even I have no idea what I can leave behind. I need my 2 units of lancers to score and I need the dryads to have something to be remotely usefull in cc. ” i strongly disagree, i d…

Quote from Kreln: “Hi, just visiting here. You guys really think that SE is so terrible right now? Honestly I get my asss whooped by SE regularly.. ” Se are really.bad keeping making them better please

Quote from wombat: “Quote from Velux: “Quote from wombat: “Quote from Velux: “Overall, the units most used were up, less used were down, no huge surprises. Externally, I don't really know.. Tthanks to Folomo, we can see that other books got a bigger increase in points, and even more with the change of the crown of autocracy ” Nerf's and Buff's are not just about points.With the Crown of Autocracy giving a 3" Commanding Presence Bubble this means that UD will be able to use same to give a second …