(A) For project goals see EXB statements. I understand that the main goal of the update is to improve balance.
(B) Change for change's sake: it has long been known that the goal was annual points updates, this isn't just something that got invented last week.
And UD are distorting metas, not just tournaments but in local club metas (and I have much more sympathy for the latter than the former). I don't see how this can be change for change's sake. I personally do think UD are a problem. We can argue about exactly how much and in what way. I am happy to wait and see the data though.
(C) Just_flo works really really hard, with very little help. I am sure at least some of the data analysis will be made public when someone has chance to look into it and it isn't buried under a bunch of other priorities. Just_flo has asked for more help on more than one occasion. Getting upset cos no-one has had chance to do this, when the project hasn't even finished the update it is being used for, does not come under the "reasonable" label in my book.
A) the tournament data has been compiled and was subsequently used by the RT to create the tier list, in which case I completely disagree with your assertion that it is unreasonable to ask to see the data report that the project used to create the tier list, and which has no further purpose in the update underway. The tier list is already made,and the impact of every army on each tier list has been decided. So there isn't really any reason that information can't be shared with the public. Particularly, after the project released it's announcement of the tier list based in part on said report as part of a PR release. If you are going to make a claim, provide the evidence to support it.
B) the DA team isn't finished with it's analysis, in which case sure, asking them to release the data would be unreasonable. But I would also point out that it also means it is unreasonable for the project to be blazing ahead with it's update when the only objective measure its using hasn't been completed yet.
And I feel for Just_Flo, he is doing a ton of work, and compiling a ton of data, that is mostly going wasted because the project won't actually let the game stay stable long enough for his work to bear fruits. There is a reason the DA kept shrinking, it's because the project wanted the tournament data to claim it was using it to balance the game, but wasn't willing to slow down enough for the DA to show anything. So you had a team who did a whole ton of work and compiling data, and harassing tournaments for no gain.
The first data report was exactly that, it reported the data, pointed out trends, pointed out things to keep in mind when interpretting it. The last one I saw was here is data, done.
Based on the UD changes, I fully expect to be unable to play the VS list you created in 2 months, which means my current work on painting it is going to be even more wasted time. I don't have tons of free time to paint, and I would love to be in your meta where your simple but nice looking ID wouldn't be taking a painting penalty in events. But neither are the case. For as imbalanced as 8th was, it at least had the saving grace that you knew you could start a project that might span a year or two and not have it invalidated by the time you finished.
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