How do you deal with triple giants/ sphinxes etc

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  • Well depends on the list obviously

    I'm currently playing the list below, and maybe just some examples

    Triple Giant
    - Shoot them, pure and simple.

    Double Gargantula
    - Dryads don't take much damage from Gargantulas and at least get loads of attacks. If I can get hereditary or +STR then things are golden (Matriarch is kept out of combat)
    - Treefathers are a bit slow to catch Gargantulas and are a little vulnerable to the poison, but are also an option

    DE double Hydra
    Powerful CC, plenty of saves and nasty breath coupled with good mobility. Only the Treefathers need apply here

    Sphinxes
    Not seeing them played over Cataphrachts and Shabti. Need to keep Pathfinders and Bladedancers at least 21 away from nasty Breath, but Treefathers handle/zone these chaps nicely. Swarm of Insects and long range shooting works a charm too

    HBE double dragon

    Here's Im down to try and zone with the Treefathers, because dragons are just a nightmare


    Short answer:
    Treefathers are a fantastic swiss-army knife to have in your army





    Pathfinder Chieftain240
    Sylvan Blades, Obsidian Rock, sylvan bow
    Dryad Ancient General305
    Adep (Druidism), Scarred Bark
    Druid435
    Master Shamanism, Sylvan bow, Magical Heirloom, Sylvan blades, Potion of Strength
    Bladedance Chieftain335
    Hunter's Honour BsB, Aether Icon
    10 Heath Hunters390
    13 Sylvan Archers357
    Musician
    23 Dryads440
    Champion
    Treefather450
    Treefather450
    5 Forest Eagles240
    11 Bladedancers398
    Champion, Standard
    10 Pathfinders460
  • Pica25 wrote:

    You need two dryad ancients to have both hatred and lethal strike, which makes the unit quite expensive...

    Thicket beast can hold it for some time but don't see how they can win, too few AP
    Against Steam Tank yes. But Giants no.

    Well, trust me : 25 dryads + 2 ancients dryads with hatred + lethal strike is indeed quite expensive, but although very effective. You can kill Cowboy Lords, Monsters, most of infantry unit with a good Magic back up. They are feared and avoided.
  • Cowboys lords wont die to it - your dryad heroes will die. Challenge, clip, whatever and then when your lethal strike matriarch is dead you can do nothing to him. Same with monsters, tank etc, its risky and imo not in our favour. Everything can work with magic back up i guess so not really a argument.

    This unit is expensive as hell, even more with magic and yet they still have no misician. Dunno how this core unit can be feared. Avoiding is easy, cant deny that.

    The best solution to tank is as chack mentioned. Either ignore it or let it clash with treepapa.

    Safe way of killing monster is lot of poisons (or arrows in general) and divination master. More risky are characters (dragon, stag or amryl shapeshifter) or itp units (rangers, wild riders, thicket dudes or treepapa). Giants are not really a problem because of their R5 but sphinxs are only afraid if div, poisons or crush attack.
    Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
  • Ciara wrote:

    Cowboys lords wont die to it - your dryad heroes will die. Challenge, clip, whatever and then when your lethal strike matriarch is dead you can do nothing to him. Same with monsters, tank etc, its risky and imo not in our favour. Everything can work with magic back up i guess so not really a argument.
    Lol... just refuse the damn Challenge. Then what ? He put one Dryad Heroe behind unit ? Who cares, I have an other one for discipline test. And Yeah if he kills one of the dryad heroe, he'll still loose on combat result because of rank bonuses.
    Already managed to kill a double charge SE taurosor in a game. Then a Lord in a other game... I'm Still testing this list, but until now, It was great.

    ABout avoiding it ? How can you avoid this scoring unit and focus on objective ? He want to ignore my 1 100 pts unit ? fine for me, it is 1 100 pts saved AND that score objective. Meanwhile, my Treefathers and Thicket Beast will get what they can and my Heath riders and Ealges will block the ennemy's movement.

    All my army list has no musicians as I play full forest spirit and honestly it did not bother me that much for now. If you manage well your deployment, you won't have trouble.

    I'll tell you when I'll get disappointed by this big unit. But for now it is not the case.
  • Galdenos wrote:

    Lol... just refuse the damn Challenge. Then what ?
    Then your lethal strikes dryad dies since she is only possible danger. After that all the attacks bounce off and you just take down models and test steadfast.
    He put one Dryad Heroe behind unit ? Who cares, I have an other one for discipline test.
    No puting behind since ages. Another one will die probably next round so i guess you should care?
    And Yeah if he kills one of the dryad heroe, he'll still loose on combat result because of rank bonuses.
    What? 3W on dryad vs 3 ranks is draw. Add overkill or charge and you test steadfast.
    Already managed to kill a double charge SE taurosor in a game. Then a Lord in a other game... I'm Still testing this list, but until now, It was great.
    I dunno how 4d6+2 s6 autohits and normal attacks didnt got rid of you in first round of combat but i guess you are really that good!


    ABout avoiding it ? How can you avoid this scoring unit and focus on objective ?
    Easy. This is slow, m5, no musician (no swift, harder march on ld8) itp unit with big footprint. Its incredibly easy to play around them and still focus on objective.
    He want to ignore my 1 100 pts unit ? fine for me, it is 1 100 pts saved AND that score objective.
    If you want to save 1100 points (badly invested points btw) i suggest to deploy them in the corner. Also do you realize its possible to ignore them completely and still its possible to win scenario? Any of them?
    Meanwhile, my Treefathers and Thicket Beast will get what they can and my Heath riders and Ealges will block the ennemy's movement.
    But not other way around? You are playing like without 1/4 of army and still you are superior on the table? How so?




    All my army list has no musicians as I play full forest spirit and honestly it did not bother me that much for now. If you manage well your deployment, you won't have trouble.
    So you have eagles/fast cav/etc or not? You mentioned them earlier and you mention now full forest spirit army.
    For me no musician is huge drawback. Try turning around or even to the side by wheeling with long sides. Very painful and also wont allow you for juicy plays.

    I'll tell you when I'll get disappointed by this big unit. But for now it is not the case.
    No need to since i dont really care.
    Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
  • Lol... just refuse the damn Challenge. Then what ? He put one Dryad Heroe behind unit ? Who cares, I have an other one for discipline test. And Yeah if he kills one of the dryad heroe, he'll still loose on combat result because of rank bonuses.
    Already managed to kill a double charge SE taurosor in a game. Then a Lord in a other game... I'm Still testing this list, but until now, It was great.

    First turn he kills the first dryad. No more LS and he probably doesnt even test because of the charge. Second turn he kills the other dryad heroe. More points. Probably as much as the cowboy's cost. Then he will block a 1000 points unit (which only has 600 or 700 point left) with a cheaper unit. He will probably even take all the points or 50% of them if you dont help your 1100 unit with more points...

    The double charge of SE taurosaur kills an average number of 10 dryads only with the impact. He is supposed to destroy your unit. I dont even see the point of using an exception as an argument, honestly...
  • I'm sorry Guys but I don't understand how you play this game... I feel like you only Undergo the ennemy strategy without trying anything.

    We have Chaff, we Have Ealges... all we need to block a non flying Cowboy .... I blocked a SA Lord on Alpha Carnosaur for 3 full round once.

    How I manage ? By Playing Smart oO. Yeah the SE double Taurosor charge killed some drayds but they were stil steadfast. Next round treefather was here to do some damage. Same for cowboys. Be smart, prepare counter charges...
    I mean : who is stupid enough to let a very expensive core unit to deal alone with a more powerful unit ? :o

    Yes there is some elves units in my army (2*5 heath hunter + 6 heathrider) and trust me, they are the most important units in my strategy. Without them, the rest of my list is useless. Why don't I have more elves unit ? Not my play style. I like to play on the fact that elves are here to reduce mobility while spirit forest do the damage part. And well, I Manage to play it like that and it is quite funny :).

    It scares me to read so much SE players being so defeatist while they play the most hardcore army in 9th age.

    As I said, I did not tried my army list against every possible match up. I'm sure there is lot of match up that are bad for me but I did not encounter them for the moment.